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this game's not for you no it's just no

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I was thinking it it can't thank you a

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nice guy like you okay what trust me

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just game's not for you I don't want to

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see you get hurt that's the scene from

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The Sopranos here Tony is luring his

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lifelong friend into a card game that he

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can't afford he's told me not to get in

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the game why did you let me do it well I

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know you had this business here Davey

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it's my nature

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it's riding the scorpion you know hey

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you know the first guy to get busted out

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this is how a guy like me makes a living

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this is my bread and butter

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yeah the Scorpion and the Frog isn't

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that the way it is I mean some of us are

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just by Nature put here to exploit other

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people that's what we do he ended up

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working for the New York Police

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Department they brought him in and said

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can you figure out what's going on with

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this prostitution problem that we have

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and so he was put in charge of figuring

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out prostitution he said it took him

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three weeks to figure out that

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everything we learned about prostitution

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was BS

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prostitution at its core is about human

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forced to be there and if they don't do

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them is really incredible and then he

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would compromise at the very highest

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levels Admirals in the military CEO is

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people running for president so

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compromise I get a prostitute

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and when I say prostitute that that

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sometimes maybe conjures up the wrong

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image because in some cases yes it is

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some woman and we can think and we can

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imagine it like pretty woman on the

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movie but it's nothing like that but in

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other cases we can't even pretend like

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it's that one it's an 11 year old boy or

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a 9 year old girl or all these other

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really sick things that are out there

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but let's lump all that together and

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then we have an apartment in some room

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in the back of that apartment that has a

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bunch of hidden cameras and microphones

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the target is going to be lured back in

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there and then the end of the day the

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person who was taping it the person who

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has that stuff is gonna go knock on that

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guy's door and say look what I got

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what are you gonna do now or I'll tell

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you what you're gonna do now

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you know I've explored this topic before

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on skeptic oh and I've always come at it

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more from the spiritual angle in terms

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of the nature of evil is there evil

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because the Kirlian Luciferian do what

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that will't fuzzy morality around evil

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never seemed very satisfying to me and I

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that direction what's interesting about

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today's show with the extraordinary

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investigative journalists who you just

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heard Sara Westall is that she takes us

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into this same evil from a different

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direction the pragmatic Tony Soprano

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get things done perspective Sara West

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all is doing great work and I commend

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her for bravely covering this topic that

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is systematically and intentionally

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ignored by the mainstream media for

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reasons that are all too obvious I hope

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today we welcome Sarah West all the

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skeptic Oh Sarah is a successful

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corporate IT professional turned

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entrepreneur turned investigative

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journalist an independent broadcaster I

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ran across Sarah's amazing YouTube

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channel where C sheet where she's

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published some really highly

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controversial interviews that in some

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ways intersect with some of the topics

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we've been bumping into here on skeptic

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oh so out of the blue more or less

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I invited her on and I'm super glad that

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you agreed to join me Sarah

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welcome to skeptical thanks again so

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much for joining me

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pleasure well as I just kind of alluded

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to we're gonna have to stitch this

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spirituality podcast that's mainly

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focused on consciousness to where you're

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at but I'm open to where that goes cuz I

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really don't know much about you other

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than your work so let's start tell folks

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who is Sarah West all well I guess I

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who is Sarah what so I could tell you

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what I do for my work let's go with that

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my my channel and what I'm trying to do

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started with science and changes in

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business and all these things and then

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you may run into a lot of the corruption

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because I couldn't understand why such

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amazing advances in science and business

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wasn't allowed to go forward when it

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helped so many people so I started to

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really dive into what's going on with

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society as well because that affects the

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edge of change it's always about the

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edge of change and what's going on and

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the edge of our understanding so I I

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science and business and society and

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politics all trying to get into the

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cutting edge of what's going on and that

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brings me into a lot of corruption it

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brings me into consciousness

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conversations it brings me into religion

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it brings me into all those things that

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are affecting us in society right now

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there's so much change going on and I

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know you feel it everybody feels it and

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I am in the process of how do we

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document this and understand it in a

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very ethical and moral way moral way so

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that we can get people understanding it

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as well and the conversation going so we

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can move in a direction that we feel

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good about as a society okay you're

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keeping it really high-level there we'll

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have to dig a little bit deep okay I

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could do that I'm intrigued by your by

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your personal background but I don't

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want to go too far into that other than

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to maybe elaborate on what you just

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mentioned if someone goes to your

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website they'll find this business

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game-changers which you alluded to and

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seems to be your public professional

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brand if you will but these interviews

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and you've framed them up one way but I

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think most people who encounter for

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example your interview with retired New

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York City detective Jimmy Boots who has

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personal knowledge of some very very

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high level highly politically connected

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people who were involved in just the

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most horrible sex crimes against

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children and and then the the the

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that he believes that somewhere between

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30 at the absolute minimum to 70 percent

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of every significant government military

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intelligence official is compromised so

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you you go from business game-changers

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to that and to an interview with Kevin

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Arnett a priest Canadian in the Catholic

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high-ranking clergy members

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performing occult and satanic practices

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this you know so you can stitch that

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back together the way that you did and I

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appreciate so appreciate the way you

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framed it up of the edge of change in

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the edge of understanding but doesn't

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this just rock our world in a way that

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we can't really put the pieces back

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together don't you feel that well it's

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it's full of trauma right but if you're

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gonna heal and you know doctors know

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this the part of the healing process is

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facing the trauma if you ignore the

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trauma you can't heal from it and

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especially if you can't stop what's

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causing the trauma in the first place

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you obviously can't heal and in the case

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of Jimmy boots he really came across the

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point of human compromise so all this

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people in power want to control others

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it's all about fortunate people to do

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what they need them to do and they don't

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care about the actual people who they

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hurt in the process because they feel

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the ends justify the means whatever

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their ends are Sara let's break that

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down for folks because there's a lot to

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cover there that I think probably you

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and I will jump right into and maybe

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leave people behind

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number one the biggest hurdle I see for

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the people I talk to is the how can this

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be issue so people want to just dismiss

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all this stuff and refuse to believe it

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because they're hey I'm an intelligent

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person I read the news whatever my news

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source is if this stuff was really

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happening at this level I would know

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about it

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Booth's series of interviews you do the

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first thing that accomplishes is that

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that shatters that so at least to me it

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tell us you know maybe background who

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Jimmy boots is and why we should listen

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to him and then what the main finding or

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observation her discovery had and then

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this compromise thing as one of the

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motivations behind it is that okay

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that's fine Jimmy boots is probably the

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most respected CIA's on CIA but

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intelligence agent out there period no

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one I mean when I have people on my show

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I get pushback from you know every guess

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person doesn't know what they're doing

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no one pushes back against Jimmy boots

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because everyone in the intelligence

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agencies and everyone knows that what he

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says is true it's it's actually very

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remarkable because he personally

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witnesses this stuff and he personally

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documented things he was besides being

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in the military and then it was serving

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on different missions and things that

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were also probably top secret I know

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they were he ended up working for the

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New York Police Department and he was a

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detective and at that time there were a

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lot of women young women who were

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walking the strip it was called the

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Minnesota strip there were prostitutes

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and because he was from Minnesota they

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brought him in and said can you figure

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out what's going on with this

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prostitution problem that we have and so

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he was put in charge of figuring out

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prostitution he said it took him three

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weeks to figure out that everything we

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learned about prostitution was BS

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prostitution at its core is about human

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trafficking when you see all these women

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thinking that they're there because they

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want to be there the people walking the

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street they're all the majority 99% of

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them are forced to be there and if they

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don't do their work the stuff that

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so he talks about that and and and then

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that was all tied into that and he got

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four minds at the very highest levels of

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government politics everything he had

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the his some of his informants were also

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informants for also we're involved with

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high-level compromising of you know

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Admirals in the military CEO is people

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running for president you know it lots I

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can't remember everything at this my

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point so compromise I could I get a

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prostitute and when I say prostitute

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that that sometimes maybe conjures up

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the wrong image because in some cases

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yes it is some woman and we can think

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and we can imagine it like pretty woman

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on the movie but it's nothing like that

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but in other cases we can't even pretend

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like it's that when it's an

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eleven-year-old boy or a nine-year-old

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girl or all these other really sick

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things that are out there but let's lump

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all that together and then we have an

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apartment in some room in the back of

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that apartment that has a bunch of

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hidden cameras and microphones in it and

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the person the target is going to be

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lured back in there and then at the end

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of the day the person who was taping it

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the person who has that stuff is gonna

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go knock on that guy's door or that

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woman's door but 99% of the time it's a

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guy's door and say look what I got

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what are you gonna do now or I'll tell

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you what you're gonna do now well you

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know as more women get into Congress

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they're compromised as well but what

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happened was originally or you know a

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couple decades ago you could compromise

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people with women you could compromise

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people with homosexuality our society

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has changed a lot where it's really

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difficult to compromise somebody just

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because there's there with a prostitute

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right I mean does it people don't care

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that much anymore about that they don't

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care that much about almost sexuality

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homosexuality anymore but everybody

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cares about being with the child and so

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compromising people with children is

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really the preferred method at this

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point but it's beyond just compromising

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they they get to a point where it's

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their way of life and they use the

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children at the Franklin scandal I don't

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know if anybody's aware of that one

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where they would bring a busload of

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teenage boys in to service people in

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Washington DC they do a little tour of

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Washington DC they'd service the

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politicians and then they go back to

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their school and the school was involved

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in that and I asked Jimmy but I always

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hate I was hit when we talked about

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these things and we say service and

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things like that

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it's about grown men raping little boys

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and girls traumatizing them for life

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continuing a cycle of trauma inside of a

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family

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these kids have mothers and daughters

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and people that care about him and

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brothers and sisters and the trauma

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reaches so far and that's where I guess

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I feel like I totally get where you're

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coming from but in terms of introducing

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this to an audience that doesn't want to

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hear it

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I just don't know there's an issue there

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in terms of how we talk about it and how

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we get past the fact that people refuse

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to believe that any of this stuff is

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real at any kind of level like you're

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talking about

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yeah well it's because they believe the

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media and you have to get past that you

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are it's you know I was shocked with a

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situation that I researched myself here

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when I talked to there's this Wetterling

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child he was a big case here and I

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talked to researchers that had found the

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she this one woman it was Diane Weil war

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she was investigating this thing for two

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decades now and they have three three

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confessions from three different people

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that were all involved in this

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kidnapping and killing of this Jacob

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Wetterling

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each of them have multiple witnesses of

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them confessing one of them were on tape

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they have all these different evidence

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along the way as far as the cart their

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car being at the site a witness seeing I

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mean just so much evidence it's a

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slam-dunk case and the FBI covered it up

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and the CIA covered it up you know Jim

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Ross sign said that there were 19 CIA

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agents there to cover this up this

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happened in Minnesota and they covered

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it up and ended up planting it on

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another guy and the evidence is so weak

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in fact they even planted bones that

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weren't human at the site

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it was so weak and they went with that

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story and wouldn't even look at the

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confessions they wouldn't look at any of

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that stuff and if anybody who has a

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brain would look at this they would see

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oh my gosh there's so much evidence here

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and the local news stations help them

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cover it up even though they we know

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that many of the journalists know

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because they've talked about it behind

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the scenes we have evidence of that so

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it's good job that story for people Sara

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for folks who don't know the who what

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when where it's Jacob Wetterling he was

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kidnapped back in the I think it late

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80s early 90s

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his mother pattern Wetterling ended up

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running for Congress and she was really

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connected she ended up being a head of

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this charity for children she was oh she

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knew there were confessions and didn't

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want to hear them her husband is

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suspected of being there's witnesses

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that saw Matt the time with Jacob at you

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know sacrifice and he was friends with a

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guy that that they found child sacrifice

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stuff in his apartment and this guy was

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a known pedophile he was out in

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association with him I mean there's just

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so much evidence I did a whole show on

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it and the local media supports these

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creeps and that's when I you know I'm

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just completely disgusted with what I

419
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found in that one case because it was

420
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very high profiles the highest profile

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case in the state I grew up in and the

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fact that I learned these things

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firsthand made me aware of how I mean

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I'm just completely disgusting but one

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of the things Jim Rothstein said is that

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he's been tracking all the journalists

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who have exposed these things at any

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level of whose career has been

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completely destroyed people don't get to

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hear this stuff and why

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it's because it's human compromise again

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they will lose their media contracts

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they will lose power and they don't want

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to make the people in power angry or

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they don't want to lose their position

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in society it's all about human

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compromise and until people realize that

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they're not getting the truth from the

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mainstream media

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they're gonna be they're gonna KITT well

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they continue to be in denial and it's

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going to continue the abuse and rape and

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torture of children are going to

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continue until they stop listening to

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the mass media and start doing their own

446
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research so that's what they have on

447
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their shoulders kids are gonna continue

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to be trafficked abuse and murder until

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you stop listening in the mass media and

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start doing your own research and and

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listening to actual people on the ground

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doing the research they have to start

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opening their eyes and minds okay

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I said we would talk about compromise

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and you've brought it up several times I

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just think we need to dig into it one

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further layer deeper because I think

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until you wrestle with it and kind of

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toss it around in your mind and

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understand it from a very kind of

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Makaveli own way at least this is my

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opinion you don't really get it and that

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is that you know what if you were

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running an agency let's say that was

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granting visas to foreign citizens

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imagine the advantage you have if every

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key player in that small group of yours

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that you're running has been compromised

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if you if they're all pedophiles and you

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have pictures you have videos you have

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testimony you know their dirty deeds

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imagine the power the complete power

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that you would wield over a group like

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that and you would have the ability then

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to go to anyone who wanted access to

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that service that you provide the visa

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service and you could completely control

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what happens there so I think an people

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until people really wrap the I wrap

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their head around that from a

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Machiavellian standpoint this is exactly

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what you

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if you were trying to get stuff done

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exactly they've come to the conclusion

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that if they really want the power and

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control they need to do this and that's

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what they do but you got to think about

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it at a very broad level this is Wars

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this is you know taking over countries

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this is controlling the leader in a

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country I mean it's pretty broad it's

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pretty extreme and it's pretty thorough

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so that maybe in a way brings us back to

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one of the things that I want to talk

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about because especially that last part

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that you did if we understand it as soon

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as you shift it into that perspective

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Sarah we have a whole other problem to

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deal with in terms of you know you're

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associated with the very excellent

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Carson School of Business there at the

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University of Minnesota or at least you

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used to be you understand you've been in

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the business world you understand that a

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lot of the business world is a kind of

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get er done kind of left-hand path

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enterprise no matter how you cut it and

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so you can go look at coca-cola and a

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lot of people hate coca-cola cause

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they'll point out the human rights

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abuses they do in this country or that

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country and then you look at a

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corporation like DynCorp right which is

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directly implicated in child trafficking

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organ harvesting the worst of the worst

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kind of things and then there's all

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these little steps so how big of a leap

518
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is it from DynCorp to coca-cola to what

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we're learning at the Carson School of

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Business University of Minnesota you

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know how do we balance the ethics of we

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have to get it done we have to make our

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numbers we have to defend our country we

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have to preserve our freedoms it all

525
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gets really gray and murky really

526
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quickly doesn't it or am i luring lines

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that don't need to be blurred no they do

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blur but that's human behavior that

529
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causes it to blue blur a lot of the

530
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school business schools teach ethics and

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a lot of the people that work at the

532
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business schools are good people they

533
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don't want you going out and

534
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his harvesting organs I mean they don't

535
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when they're teaching you business

536
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they're not thinking that you're gonna

537
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go out and harvest organs but the

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business practices for harvesting organs

539
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and selling soda pop is pretty similar I

540
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mean you can apply the same principles

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to whatever it is that you're buying and

542
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selling and even in politics you know

543
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when you're learning about politics and

544
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you have somebody owes you a favor and

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you know you will more power than they

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do and all those concepts in the in

547
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light of ethics it's the same thing

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00:23:56,629 --> 00:23:54,899
whether you're immoral or whether you

549
00:24:00,200 --> 00:23:56,639
using it in a really corrupt

550
00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:00,210
manner the same principles apply does

551
00:24:05,659 --> 00:24:03,240
that make sense oh well it it makes

552
00:24:08,930 --> 00:24:05,669
sense to me but then that really really

553
00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:08,940
brings us to the larger spiritual

554
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:11,940
question and spiritual dimensions to all

555
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:14,130
of this and I don't know how we even

556
00:24:21,139 --> 00:24:17,610
begin to pull that apart except maybe I

557
00:24:24,639 --> 00:24:21,149
would tee up as a as a lead-in to that

558
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:24,649
the series of outstanding just

559
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:27,690
unbelievably groundbreaking interviews

560
00:24:33,049 --> 00:24:30,120
you did with Kevin annette so maybe you

561
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:33,059
want to introduce folks to who kevin is

562
00:24:36,590 --> 00:24:34,710
a little bit about his background and

563
00:24:38,659 --> 00:24:36,600
then some of the things you touched on

564
00:24:41,210 --> 00:24:38,669
in several of the interviews that you

565
00:24:44,629 --> 00:24:41,220
did well covenant net is a very very

566
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,639
courageous man he realized and there's a

567
00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:46,799
documentary that I have I posted on my

568
00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:50,070
youtube channel of his background but he

569
00:24:55,610 --> 00:24:52,919
was a pastor that realized I'm Minister

570
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:55,620
and he realized that in his kind of it's

571
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:57,570
a long story but in his congregation a

572
00:25:02,779 --> 00:24:59,840
lot of them weren't Native Americans and

573
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:02,789
he ended up running into and learning

574
00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:05,130
about the problem of boarding schools

575
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:07,950
the assimilation camps or schools of

576
00:25:12,289 --> 00:25:10,559
Native Americans and learned that over

577
00:25:15,259 --> 00:25:12,299
fifty percent of those kids that were

578
00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:15,269
sent when they're five and six to these

579
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,120
schools to for simulation purposes to

580
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:21,120
learn our culture didn't come out of

581
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:21,960
there alive

582
00:25:27,289 --> 00:25:24,659
they were killed they were they were

583
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:27,299
treated so horribly that they died in

584
00:25:31,910 --> 00:25:30,360
these places and he learned about all

585
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:31,920
this these stories about what

586
00:25:36,050 --> 00:25:33,750
happened and the abuses and the

587
00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:36,060
atrocities and he exposed it and the

588
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:38,460
church was heavily involved the church

589
00:25:45,230 --> 00:25:40,620
was involved in the simulation programs

590
00:25:48,830 --> 00:25:45,240
and it's very very document well

591
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,840
documented these these schools and at

592
00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:50,400
the time he was he was exposing the

593
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:52,190
church that he was involved and they

594
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:55,170
didn't like that very much and they went

595
00:26:02,030 --> 00:25:58,970
after him hard and they instead of

596
00:26:04,730 --> 00:26:02,040
admitting their crimes and and being

597
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:04,740
repentant you know and saying I am so

598
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:06,690
sorry and I can we can't do this they

599
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:09,240
buckled down and got rid of him and

600
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:11,790
covered up the crimes and he realized

601
00:26:16,670 --> 00:26:13,950
that the church at the higher levels

602
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:16,680
were not about taking the gospel

603
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,320
seriously not about taking the teachings

604
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:22,320
of Jesus Christ seriously they had

605
00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:25,650
another agenda going on and that's when

606
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:28,860
he woke up because people who take the

607
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:31,250
teachings of Jesus Christ would never

608
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:34,650
allow this to occur in their world and

609
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:37,380
would never turn their back on the

610
00:26:42,260 --> 00:26:40,290
victims of these horrible abuses well

611
00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:42,270
that's always kind of a loaded thing

612
00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:45,270
when we introduced Jesus Christ and

613
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:47,400
Christianity and I mean where do you

614
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:49,710
draw the line there because you can turn

615
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:52,620
back the clock of history and try and

616
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:55,530
find that pure starting point and I've

617
00:26:59,780 --> 00:26:57,930
done it it just vanishes it slips

618
00:27:01,670 --> 00:26:59,790
through your fingers like I don't know

619
00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:01,680
where your audience is at with whether

620
00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:04,350
they you know a lot of people follow the

621
00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:06,990
teachings of Jesus but even if you're

622
00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:10,200
not a Christian and you're more into the

623
00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:12,600
science of consciousness and stuff the

624
00:27:18,290 --> 00:27:15,480
teachings at some point you know what's

625
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:18,300
good you know the light you know the

626
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:19,050
Emoto

627
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:21,480
water when you have hate the water

628
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:23,610
changes its shape when you have love

629
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:26,250
it's a different crystal shape we know

630
00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:30,480
that the feelings of love is about

631
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:33,030
health and prosperity we know it changes

632
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:37,950
you at a very core level and that's the

633
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:40,850
the higher level consciousness that

634
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:44,880
Jesus and those like him whether you

635
00:27:49,670 --> 00:27:45,930
believe in that character

636
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:49,680
not is trying to teach people sure so as

637
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:53,490
a representation embodiment yes kind of

638
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,250
this good in this guy's evil dynamic but

639
00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:58,320
then even that is problematic

640
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:01,740
I just before we leave this too far what

641
00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:04,650
I do want to talk about what you reveal

642
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:06,060
in that interview just at a high level

643
00:28:10,550 --> 00:28:08,700
then people can go check in to check it

644
00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:10,560
out and dig into it as deep as they want

645
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:13,560
but Kevin's of revelations about what he

646
00:28:18,670 --> 00:28:15,510
personally experienced in terms of

647
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:18,680
satanic practices occult practices

648
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:22,500
within the Catholic Church within other

649
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:24,630
church organizations that he's seen are

650
00:28:29,270 --> 00:28:26,490
truly startling and it's another one of

651
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:29,280
those how can this be kind of moment and

652
00:28:35,030 --> 00:28:31,710
I have friends who are you know still

653
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:35,040
churchgoers or Catholics still giving

654
00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:37,410
money to the church despite all that's

655
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:40,460
happened and there's a major kind of

656
00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:43,440
shifting personal thing that has to go

657
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:45,390
on in terms of like you were saying

658
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:48,240
about absorbing this information on the

659
00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:50,460
edge of understanding expanding our

660
00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:52,500
understanding relaxing a little bit and

661
00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:54,360
saying I do live in a world where this

662
00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:55,920
stuff happens what am I going to do

663
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:56,550
about it

664
00:29:02,000 --> 00:28:59,220
but I want you to maybe just share with

665
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:02,010
people what that was like for you to

666
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,440
first dig into this and understand what

667
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:06,960
he saw and tell us what he saw cuz the

668
00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:08,610
satanic part is just gonna flip people

669
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:12,360
out especially inside the church well I

670
00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:13,890
you know I've heard it for multiple

671
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:15,960
different angles from multiple witnesses

672
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:18,330
and things and Jimmy boots has his own

673
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:20,010
story of the church being infiltrated

674
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:22,140
and purposely putting pedophiles in

675
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:23,760
place so they can launder money through

676
00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:25,320
the church and control the drug trade

677
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:28,350
and the money needed for wars that was

678
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:30,720
more from a pure detective standpoint

679
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:33,510
and then from Kevin Anette standpoint

680
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:36,120
what he learned about the satanic

681
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:37,950
rituals and the point is is that the

682
00:29:43,370 --> 00:29:41,640
Catholic Church I mean this is where you

683
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:43,380
know people who are Catholic so can I

684
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:45,210
have a hard time with this and and it's

685
00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:48,450
because Rome wanted to control the

686
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:52,140
people and they had a pagan religion

687
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:54,690
which is you know the worship of Satan

688
00:30:02,180 --> 00:29:58,890
and sacrificing children and

689
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:02,190
animals and to control the people they

690
00:30:06,050 --> 00:30:04,290
put together this religion that they

691
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:06,060
could control that's what the

692
00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:07,710
researchers are finding and they kept

693
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:11,280
their practices of sacrificing humans in

694
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:15,600
their church and it's it's the common

695
00:30:22,670 --> 00:30:20,010
thread of using charities as fronts to

696
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:22,680
be able to do really bad stuff and if

697
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:24,330
you really dig into a lot of charities

698
00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:26,940
they a lot of the charities are the

699
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:31,280
fronts unfortunately for a lot of bad

700
00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:34,410
characters in the world because it's

701
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,230
easy to hide there they have no qualms

702
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:39,840
about hiding behind a we a normal person

703
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:41,550
to go oh my god I can't do that how

704
00:30:46,130 --> 00:30:43,770
could they do that well they don't care

705
00:30:47,180 --> 00:30:46,140
so they're killing a child they don't

706
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:47,190
care if they're gonna hide behind a

707
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:49,770
charity and that's what people have to

708
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:52,530
get mentally past is hiding behind a

709
00:30:58,220 --> 00:30:55,260
charity is not beneath these characters

710
00:31:00,680 --> 00:30:58,230
hiding behind the Catholic Church is not

711
00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:00,690
the beneath these characters creating a

712
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:02,400
whole religion so they can control you

713
00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:05,870
is not beneath these characters and

714
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:10,140
that's hard really hard it doesn't mean

715
00:31:14,810 --> 00:31:11,460
that their whole foundation of

716
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:14,820
understanding of Christ and Jesus and

717
00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:16,890
that's why I talked about Jesus just a

718
00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:19,140
moment ago doesn't mean that that is

719
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:20,670
something they have to throw away it's

720
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,440
such a loving great way to live and they

721
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,360
don't have to throw that away it doesn't

722
00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:30,000
it's they just should support a

723
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:32,940
structure that supports something that

724
00:31:38,570 --> 00:31:35,010
they don't believe in when you first

725
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:38,580
encountered Kevin's story and you dug

726
00:31:44,390 --> 00:31:41,640
into it and you interviewed him what was

727
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:44,400
most impressive to you I don't know if

728
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:46,500
impressive is the right word but what

729
00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:49,110
really clicked for you and said oh my

730
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,900
god this is true this must be true what

731
00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:54,240
was most significant terms the evidence

732
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,790
that he has because he has personally

733
00:32:00,110 --> 00:31:58,320
witnessed some of this stuff but is

734
00:32:02,030 --> 00:32:00,120
there anything else beyond that I don't

735
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:02,040
know if he personally witnessed it as

736
00:32:04,910 --> 00:32:03,330
much as he's talked to a lot of

737
00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:04,920
witnesses and learned he's talked to

738
00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:06,800
families and he's we

739
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:10,070
any witnesses oh maybe the actual which

740
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:12,970
is like he's seen pictures of the actual

741
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:15,110
satanic rituals I don't know if he

742
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:17,270
walked in on one or not did he say he

743
00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:18,890
did I don't remember him saying that

744
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:21,620
yeah he said he said he interrupted one

745
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:25,450
in Canada yeah I saw in that word yes

746
00:32:31,330 --> 00:32:29,030
but most of how he learned about is just

747
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:31,340
through talking and being a detective

748
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,010
you know talking to so many people who

749
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:36,080
are hurting I mean these people these

750
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:38,360
these people were suffering they're

751
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:42,470
hurting and that's how I came to the

752
00:32:46,150 --> 00:32:44,090
conclusion that I believed I was because

753
00:32:47,770 --> 00:32:46,160
I talked to people who are hurting and I

754
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:47,780
talked to Rothstein who had proof and

755
00:32:51,820 --> 00:32:49,010
I've talked to other people that are

756
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,830
saying who back Kevin in order for me to

757
00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:53,840
to vet Kevin I talked to a lot of

758
00:32:57,270 --> 00:32:55,820
different people to to make sure Kevin's

759
00:33:00,120 --> 00:32:57,280
story was true

760
00:33:02,770 --> 00:33:00,130
it's um there's so many people hurting

761
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:02,780
and this isn't this is really serious

762
00:33:07,270 --> 00:33:04,730
because the people go through this

763
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,280
they're in a lot of pain I talked to a

764
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:09,200
witness his name was Scott the survivor

765
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:11,540
I have a two-part interview of somebody

766
00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:14,720
whose dad was high up in the Democratic

767
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:16,430
Party doing a lot of fundraising and

768
00:33:21,490 --> 00:33:19,550
stuff and he procured children for

769
00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:21,500
politicians and for wealthy individuals

770
00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:23,030
in California in that area of the

771
00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:27,590
country and he this character explained

772
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:30,260
what was going on he was a victim and it

773
00:33:36,430 --> 00:33:33,710
was the most awful thing I've ever heard

774
00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:36,440
he bore his holes the first time he went

775
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:39,380
public with it and he bore his soul and

776
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:41,780
he talked about ritual sacrifice he

777
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:43,610
talked about these kids as young as six

778
00:33:49,690 --> 00:33:47,330
five six years old being you know lined

779
00:33:52,270 --> 00:33:49,700
up and abuse and he said that sometimes

780
00:33:54,670 --> 00:33:52,280
they were so injured that you knew they

781
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:54,680
weren't gonna make it alive out of these

782
00:33:59,050 --> 00:33:57,110
things and and he said you know he was

783
00:34:00,430 --> 00:33:59,060
nine and he was one of the older ones at

784
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:00,440
the time and so they'd comfort the

785
00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:04,010
younger ones and it was just incredible

786
00:34:08,919 --> 00:34:06,380
the stories he went into detail that I'm

787
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,929
I can't go into I just I don't like to

788
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:10,240
talk about it at that level of detail

789
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:12,860
but he did because he felt it was

790
00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:15,169
necessary and I you know and I asked the

791
00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:17,000
detailed questions in that interview and

792
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:18,500
I welcome anybody to listen to it I

793
00:34:21,899 --> 00:34:19,810
actually warned people

794
00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:21,909
you might have to shut it off and then

795
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:23,950
turn it back on might take you four

796
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:26,200
attempts to get through it it's at that

797
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:28,600
shocking and it's that hard and I I

798
00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:30,610
don't think he's I mean that you can

799
00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:33,070
just tell this guy is baring a soul and

800
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:35,590
this is what witnesses are going through

801
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:38,290
the trauma I mean it's one thing for me

802
00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:40,630
to hear about it and be traumatized it's

803
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:42,640
another thing for these poor victims to

804
00:34:44,899 --> 00:34:43,990
be trimmed that they actually had to

805
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:44,909
live through it

806
00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:48,730
right so it's it's really important I

807
00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:51,340
think fantastic for you to get that

808
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:53,380
information out there absolutely

809
00:34:57,150 --> 00:34:55,510
horrible that you have to get that

810
00:35:02,010 --> 00:34:57,160
information out there that this is a

811
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,020
reality but absolutely absolutely kudos

812
00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:04,000
to you for doing it especially when you

813
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:08,080
look at satanic ritual abuse and how its

814
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:11,650
portrayed how its covered up anyone who

815
00:35:17,010 --> 00:35:13,750
wants to follow as you were alluding to

816
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:17,020
the the media stream there and how that

817
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:20,830
story gets just covered up again and

818
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:23,230
again and every time it pops up there's

819
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,310
some kind of phony-baloney false memory

820
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:30,400
syndrome board-certified funded by

821
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:33,730
NAMBLA kind of crazy thing or then it's

822
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,670
turned into satanic panic oh isn't that

823
00:35:41,730 --> 00:35:39,760
hahaha satanic panic wasn't that crazy

824
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:41,740
and then you go back and look at

825
00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:43,630
McMartin and it doesn't look like

826
00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:48,070
satanic panic anymore so do you want to

827
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:51,240
speak to that at all in terms of how

828
00:35:57,810 --> 00:35:55,690
we've been mesmerised into believing

829
00:36:00,270 --> 00:35:57,820
that this isn't true because we

830
00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:00,280
certainly like you said hey we want to

831
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,550
believe that this isn't true because it

832
00:36:09,740 --> 00:36:05,920
is hard to put your head on the pillow

833
00:36:13,110 --> 00:36:09,750
at night and think about this level of

834
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:13,120
human suffering going on in your

835
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,910
freaking neighborhood in your

836
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:18,000
neighborhood sometimes it's hard to

837
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,950
believe this level of trauma is going on

838
00:36:25,110 --> 00:36:22,960
unless until you suffer something

839
00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:25,120
yourself that kind of wakes you up or

840
00:36:30,030 --> 00:36:27,430
you see it yourself it's just kind of

841
00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:30,040
human nature because it's so human

842
00:36:33,060 --> 00:36:31,990
beings you know I keep saying this is

843
00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:33,070
not normal

844
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:35,870
he'll be normal human beings don't do

845
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,970
this the children so I still have some

846
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:39,920
stumbling blocks to sink thinking that

847
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:41,450
there's just something wrong with these

848
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:44,210
people that are beyond what I understand

849
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:45,590
at this moment you know maybe there's

850
00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:47,120
some science I don't understand that's

851
00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:49,160
being used against them I just don't

852
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:51,590
understand how a human being can do this

853
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:54,290
but the media how they cover it up is

854
00:37:01,080 --> 00:36:57,110
you know like Ben Swann he was a Fox 9

855
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:01,090
journalist who actually did a serious

856
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:04,010
investigative work on pizza gate it was

857
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:06,770
really objective it was really good he

858
00:37:10,570 --> 00:37:08,330
didn't come to any conclusions but he

859
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:10,580
just didn't laugh about it

860
00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:13,310
he didn't mock it he just seriously

861
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:15,950
talked about it the next day he was off

862
00:37:25,150 --> 00:37:19,850
the air anybody who doesn't mock and

863
00:37:27,550 --> 00:37:25,160
laugh I at it is let go and they they

864
00:37:31,390 --> 00:37:27,560
can't work again I mean that's what they

865
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,400
did yeah the pizza gate story is really

866
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:33,920
an interesting one to delve into and

867
00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:36,110
I've covered it a couple times on this

868
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:39,500
show because I think it represents this

869
00:37:47,380 --> 00:37:43,520
kind of crossover between get er done

870
00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:47,390
politics left-hand path and the very

871
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:52,300
dark do what thou wilt kind of satanic

872
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:56,480
infused Luciferian kind of stuff but the

873
00:38:00,040 --> 00:37:57,680
thing that I always think is intriguing

874
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:00,050
but pizza gate is is that they totally

875
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:02,390
won the story in terms of controlling

876
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:04,460
the narrative right so you mentioned

877
00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:06,170
pizza gate today and everyone goes oh

878
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:08,300
it's this guy who went in with this gun

879
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:10,610
and shot up this pizza parlor you know

880
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:13,400
what I mean everybody look like idiots

881
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:16,070
yes exactly and it's like you know well

882
00:38:20,050 --> 00:38:18,050
it's that's not what it is to me what it

883
00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:20,060
is to me is a bunch of emails that show

884
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:23,990
John Podesta highest Democratic

885
00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:27,890
operative conversing with Dennis Hastert

886
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,340
highest ranking Republican operative and

887
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:33,920
the connection being that Dennis Hastert

888
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:36,800
is a convicted pedophile that the judge

889
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:39,260
at the time of sentencing says you're

890
00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:41,030
the worst to the worst he terms there

891
00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:43,190
any ones that I've that I've seen so

892
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:45,380
anyone who's objective like you're

893
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:46,160
saying and

894
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:49,340
starts looking at that data it looks a

895
00:38:55,930 --> 00:38:51,500
heck of a lot different than something

896
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:55,940
we can just dismiss but without going

897
00:39:01,150 --> 00:38:57,890
into that one of the things that we

898
00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:01,160
might shift in to talk about is politics

899
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:04,660
I mean can we really I always worry when

900
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:08,240
someone takes a political angle on this

901
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:11,690
because it certainly seems to transcend

902
00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:14,510
all of that I saw the interview with

903
00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:16,580
Jimmy boots and you know both you guys

904
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:17,600
are talking about Trump

905
00:39:23,140 --> 00:39:20,450
I mean hey hurray you know drain the

906
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,150
swamp but do we really believe that

907
00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:25,760
Trump isn't compromised to some degree

908
00:39:29,290 --> 00:39:27,500
we already have all the evidence to

909
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:29,300
suggest that to some degree

910
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:33,530
he is probably compromised enough right

911
00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:36,410
I don't know I knew I know that he's

912
00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:39,560
better than Hillary Clinton was good all

913
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:41,540
that forget it yeah of course you know

914
00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:45,850
well this is what my sources say is that

915
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:49,580
there's two factions in the deep state

916
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:53,540
and Trump is being supported by the

917
00:40:00,400 --> 00:39:55,850
faction that wants to take down the real

918
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:00,410
bad guys that's you know he's he's

919
00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:02,690
compromised with the mob and making

920
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:05,480
money and stuff but there's a line when

921
00:40:11,140 --> 00:40:09,010
you start killing kids and you start

922
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:11,150
drinking boy I mean just doing really

923
00:40:18,010 --> 00:40:14,420
bad there's lines that get crossed you

924
00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:18,020
know making money and being a a mobster

925
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:21,470
in the sense of just a pure business guy

926
00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:25,310
you know that's that's one line I'd

927
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:26,420
grant you that's a really interesting

928
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:28,970
discussion to have I agree most people

929
00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:30,770
would agree there's a there's a line

930
00:40:36,730 --> 00:40:32,740
when I'm standing up there with my

931
00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:36,740
satanic robes and you know making a

932
00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:39,740
snuff film about the murder of a kid but

933
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:42,320
there's also the Jeffrey Epstein line

934
00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:45,710
over here where hey it's okay to you

935
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:48,200
know coerce some fifteen-year-old girl

936
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:51,500
into having sex at a party you know

937
00:40:58,090 --> 00:40:54,770
that's not a line in terms of politics

938
00:41:00,670 --> 00:40:58,100
that's a line that makes you unelectable

939
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:00,680
you know when it's kind of

940
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:03,740
Hillary Clinton who knows the horrible

941
00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:05,450
things that she's done but at the very

942
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:09,080
least the pizza gate emails and the

943
00:41:15,310 --> 00:41:12,650
Spirit cooking makes her unelectable to

944
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:15,320
a population that just will not process

945
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:17,720
that so that's what I always wonder

946
00:41:24,130 --> 00:41:20,030
about I mean politics aren't all these

947
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:24,140
folks compromised well I you know that's

948
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:25,670
a question that everybody has to answer

949
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:28,010
themselves because it's really ugly

950
00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:31,640
right but I asked Jimmy boots I said is

951
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:36,080
Trump a pedophile has he been with any

952
00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:38,840
underage person and we all don't Trump

953
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:39,740
some womanizer

954
00:41:45,609 --> 00:41:43,310
I mean I you know he's a womanizer but

955
00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:45,619
so was Clinton and so was I don't know

956
00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:48,350
probably it's half the you know Kennedy

957
00:41:56,410 --> 00:41:51,080
was so when Clinton wasn't Clinton was a

958
00:41:59,350 --> 00:41:56,420
rapist anyway yes yes but so the trumpet

959
00:42:02,830 --> 00:41:59,360
Trump I think we have you know testimony

960
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:02,840
that is very convincing from girls who

961
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:07,040
were 16 17 115 who says yeah he hit me

962
00:42:11,890 --> 00:42:09,050
hit on me on this party and he was

963
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:11,900
quote-unquote dating other models

964
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:16,970
quote-unquote rage but my understanding

965
00:42:24,340 --> 00:42:21,310
or from detectives and people is that he

966
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,350
isn't a pedophile he has women problems

967
00:42:30,849 --> 00:42:27,280
and he loves beautiful women and he'll

968
00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:30,859
he but he's never actually went after

969
00:42:37,420 --> 00:42:34,430
children and if he had this what Jimmy

970
00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:37,430
booth said if he had we'd have it on him

971
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:39,859
because we knew all the pedophiles in

972
00:42:45,130 --> 00:42:42,290
the city and we did hat we didn't have

973
00:42:47,859 --> 00:42:45,140
anything on Trump so if he's hitting on

974
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:47,869
some of these girls I would say maybe he

975
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:49,730
maybe he was hitting on a

976
00:42:53,710 --> 00:42:52,010
sixteen-year-old but maybe he didn't

977
00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:53,720
realize she was 16 maybe thought it was

978
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:55,670
18 maybe he didn't care maybe he thought

979
00:43:00,820 --> 00:42:57,770
it would her child once they were 16 I

980
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:00,830
don't know what I can't go there but my

981
00:43:06,730 --> 00:43:04,010
my information in my Intel tells me he's

982
00:43:09,849 --> 00:43:06,740
not a pedophile I bet I've got that

983
00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:09,859
would go exactly that the and I have one

984
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,680
tenth one hundredth of the information

985
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:13,760
that you do but

986
00:43:18,490 --> 00:43:16,430
the optics of the situation line up to

987
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:18,500
me with exactly what you're saying a guy

988
00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:22,520
who you know wants to be a player and

989
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:25,640
will look the other way is she 18 you

990
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:28,880
know she said she was 18 yeah so we all

991
00:43:33,250 --> 00:43:31,090
get that and that is different than

992
00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:33,260
standing up there in the robes with a

993
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:36,260
five year old that's gonna be killed at

994
00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:37,910
the end of your ceremony so we get that

995
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:40,340
distinction too so but still we have

996
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,710
this question of politics I mean can we

997
00:43:47,050 --> 00:43:44,480
really pick sides here you know you got

998
00:43:50,290 --> 00:43:47,060
Franklin sent scandal all Republican you

999
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:50,300
got the mostly Republican you got all

1000
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:52,250
these other scandals Democrat does any

1001
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:53,810
of that stuff make any difference aren't

1002
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:56,720
these people linked at some very all are

1003
00:44:01,390 --> 00:43:59,900
deeper evil way they're all linked and

1004
00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:01,400
that's why I don't like the left-right

1005
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:03,260
paradigm I always say the left-right

1006
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:07,609
paradigm is a fallacy they're all linked

1007
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:09,950
and if they're all doing what the deep

1008
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,710
state bidding is and the stuff that they

1009
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:14,720
allow us to decide on there are things

1010
00:44:19,390 --> 00:44:17,359
that doesn't really affect much and they

1011
00:44:20,980 --> 00:44:19,400
have us arguing over things that aren't

1012
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:20,990
really important to them they don't care

1013
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,510
if we you know certain things whatever

1014
00:44:28,359 --> 00:44:25,760
they allow us to argue on and the media

1015
00:44:30,250 --> 00:44:28,369
they don't really care they let us make

1016
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:30,260
certain decisions and make it seem like

1017
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:32,270
we are in charge but we're not at the

1018
00:44:38,170 --> 00:44:36,010
very high levels the monetary supply

1019
00:44:40,810 --> 00:44:38,180
think we're a charge of that the Federal

1020
00:44:42,609 --> 00:44:40,820
Reserve is an independent from the

1021
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:42,619
government private institution that

1022
00:44:46,450 --> 00:44:45,109
makes all of our money decisions and we

1023
00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:46,460
don't get to know what they're doing

1024
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:50,060
that's deep State that's our money it

1025
00:44:54,220 --> 00:44:51,590
can you imagine running your household

1026
00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:54,230
but not being allowed to know how much

1027
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,700
money is coming in and what you're

1028
00:45:00,340 --> 00:44:57,680
spending would you feel like you were in

1029
00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:00,350
charge of your household sir you touched

1030
00:45:04,510 --> 00:45:02,750
on something and we chatted about it for

1031
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:04,520
just a second before we hit the record

1032
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:07,970
button and that is the journalism part

1033
00:45:13,810 --> 00:45:11,210
of that what has that been like for you

1034
00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:13,820
what is that kind of transformation

1035
00:45:18,970 --> 00:45:17,000
banned from being where you said you

1036
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:18,980
were this business game changer kind of

1037
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:21,250
thing - now I got to believe you were

1038
00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:24,050
heavily into this investigative

1039
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:25,430
journalism kind of thing you're

1040
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:27,050
certainly you

1041
00:45:30,670 --> 00:45:28,550
you ought to be because you're fantastic

1042
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,680
at it and you're playing such a vital

1043
00:45:35,410 --> 00:45:33,440
role in getting this information out but

1044
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:35,420
maybe you want to speak to both your

1045
00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:38,810
journey and more broadly you know what's

1046
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:42,260
the future for independent investigative

1047
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:43,490
journalists like you

1048
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:46,910
well my journey started with cures for

1049
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:49,310
cancer and autism and all that stuff and

1050
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,850
seeing how top cancer doctors are being

1051
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:55,520
killed and and then you know talking to

1052
00:46:01,480 --> 00:45:59,090
victims of of abuse and seeing what the

1053
00:46:03,550 --> 00:46:01,490
deep states doing to go in and taking

1054
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:03,560
over the natural resources of countries

1055
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:07,010
and and then you realize I don't have a

1056
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:10,490
choice this is what I have to do it just

1057
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:12,430
naturally went in that direction that

1058
00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:15,850
it's a how can I talk about the edge of

1059
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:18,470
what's going on society without talking

1060
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:20,420
about this because nothing okay I'm

1061
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:22,130
talking to a scientist that has a great

1062
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:24,650
cancer put you know treating potential

1063
00:46:28,810 --> 00:46:26,510
but he's worried about getting killed

1064
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:28,820
and how to do it in stealth mode you

1065
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:31,370
know I'm like well how do I properly

1066
00:46:34,780 --> 00:46:33,110
cover these things unless I start

1067
00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:34,790
talking them and diving into all these

1068
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:36,980
other things but it's just a natural

1069
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:40,130
progression anybody I think that is in

1070
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,410
journalism they're either controlled or

1071
00:46:46,810 --> 00:46:45,200
they eventually go into some of this in

1072
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:46,820
whatever realm you you're talking about

1073
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:48,530
consciousness and things and so you're

1074
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,910
going into that a little bit too because

1075
00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:51,680
it's like wow I can't not because it

1076
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:53,120
does affect consciousness and our

1077
00:46:58,810 --> 00:46:55,910
understanding and you know whether we

1078
00:47:01,000 --> 00:46:58,820
decide that we're gonna be it light I

1079
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:01,010
don't know how your show operates and so

1080
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:03,460
I don't know how you you know you

1081
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:05,750
categorize and stuff but it really

1082
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,370
affects your own consciousness and what

1083
00:47:11,590 --> 00:47:09,200
you decide that you're gonna be in life

1084
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,600
and that I don't have a choice I'm like

1085
00:47:18,370 --> 00:47:14,480
I just have to do this and I have a lot

1086
00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:18,380
of skills at understanding and putting

1087
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:21,500
pieces together and mapping out big

1088
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:24,020
picture infrastructure and how

1089
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:28,160
everything ties together and and so I

1090
00:47:33,460 --> 00:47:30,770
think I'm drawn to doing that in that

1091
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:33,470
way but with the details that I'm

1092
00:47:38,050 --> 00:47:36,770
exposed to I'm not sure if I'm answering

1093
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:38,060
your question I mean that's a deep

1094
00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:40,610
question for me and I don't feel I have

1095
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:42,560
I don't even know half the time why I do

1096
00:47:47,950 --> 00:47:44,210
what other than the fact I just have to

1097
00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:47,960
oh I think you answered it beautifully I

1098
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:50,630
understand your answer and you know just

1099
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:53,930
between you and I I mean my path is

1100
00:48:00,460 --> 00:47:56,810
different but somewhat similar I had a

1101
00:48:02,050 --> 00:48:00,470
business path much like yours and I sold

1102
00:48:03,970 --> 00:48:02,060
my company and I was like okay great

1103
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:03,980
what do you do now will you you have an

1104
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:05,740
opportunity to answer the biggest

1105
00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:08,450
questions right who are we why are we

1106
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:10,760
here kind of stuff so let's talk to

1107
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:12,530
people let's talk to people who profess

1108
00:48:18,190 --> 00:48:15,470
to know the answers and my orientation

1109
00:48:22,030 --> 00:48:18,200
was disabled let's look at science and I

1110
00:48:23,950 --> 00:48:22,040
was surprised that one there were these

1111
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:23,960
scientists you said well mainstream

1112
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:25,970
science is completely dropping the ball

1113
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,920
and we can start with consciousness and

1114
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,800
they're pushing this agenda that you're

1115
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:32,480
a biological robot in a meaningless

1116
00:48:37,330 --> 00:48:34,610
universe and we all know that's just

1117
00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:37,340
complete absurdity no one lives that no

1118
00:48:40,990 --> 00:48:39,140
one lives there life has no meaning that

1119
00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:41,000
their kids have no meaning that their

1120
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:43,550
wife has no meaning but these that love

1121
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:45,620
has no isn't real it's just a biological

1122
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:48,650
process so then that kind of led into

1123
00:48:53,770 --> 00:48:51,110
some of this stuff was like why are they

1124
00:48:57,250 --> 00:48:53,780
pushing that so much when it doesn't

1125
00:48:59,500 --> 00:48:57,260
work scientifically or philosophically

1126
00:49:00,940 --> 00:48:59,510
let alone spiritually when we go into

1127
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:00,950
the spiritual traditions and they go

1128
00:49:07,660 --> 00:49:03,290
well they of course not you know but so

1129
00:49:10,090 --> 00:49:07,670
that kind of got me to the same thing to

1130
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:10,100
some of the same places and that's how

1131
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:11,930
it kind of intersects with your work is

1132
00:49:16,810 --> 00:49:14,690
when you keep asking that how can this

1133
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:16,820
be questioned how can this be

1134
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:20,690
you do bump into these questions of what

1135
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:22,730
is the nature of this evil there's

1136
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:24,680
resistance whatever you want to call it

1137
00:49:31,930 --> 00:49:29,150
this do what thou wilt vibe that is out

1138
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:31,940
there that we all know is is kind of

1139
00:49:38,590 --> 00:49:34,970
counter to our greater good to the

1140
00:49:41,950 --> 00:49:38,600
highest part of us so that's what I keep

1141
00:49:44,170 --> 00:49:41,960
picking and poking away at why the

1142
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:44,180
questions why are there some people like

1143
00:49:49,690 --> 00:49:47,810
us that can't fathom doing hurting

1144
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:49,700
another person you know like that's not

1145
00:49:55,620 --> 00:49:52,660
that's not what I'm about

1146
00:49:57,539 --> 00:49:55,630
can't hurt another person in that way it

1147
00:49:59,130 --> 00:49:57,549
would it would hurt me too much right I

1148
00:50:02,819 --> 00:49:59,140
feel like hurting them would hurt me

1149
00:50:06,289 --> 00:50:02,829
yeah I mean I just you can't do that why

1150
00:50:09,870 --> 00:50:06,299
do they feel that they can why is that

1151
00:50:11,609 --> 00:50:09,880
lifted from them I don't want to say it

1152
00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:11,619
as a lifted it's not like it's a burden

1153
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:14,500
to me but it you know why don't they

1154
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:16,480
have that and that's why I say it's not

1155
00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:18,190
normal I think a normal human being has

1156
00:50:22,799 --> 00:50:20,440
that like the baby sparrows who is

1157
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:22,809
telling I just had a show on and they're

1158
00:50:27,299 --> 00:50:25,390
talking about the baby sparrows and this

1159
00:50:29,819 --> 00:50:27,309
the crows come in and hurt the baby

1160
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:29,829
sparrows and the the all the adults

1161
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:32,079
Pharaohs now a team up and when there's

1162
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:33,670
a crow around and they think getting rid

1163
00:50:37,319 --> 00:50:35,530
of this crow so it won't hurt the baby

1164
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:37,329
sparrows and it's not their baby it's

1165
00:50:42,539 --> 00:50:39,970
the the baby of their neighboring

1166
00:50:45,779 --> 00:50:42,549
Sparrow but they do it together you know

1167
00:50:48,359 --> 00:50:45,789
a species behave that way why aren't we

1168
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:48,369
I'm with you but then we got Jane

1169
00:50:56,010 --> 00:50:52,450
Goodall right awesome stuff but then 20

1170
00:50:59,370 --> 00:50:56,020
years later murder shows up right so

1171
00:51:02,039 --> 00:50:59,380
Jane Goodall goes into the jungle finds

1172
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:02,049
that we are not alone in terms of having

1173
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:04,150
a consciousness she's observing it now

1174
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:07,690
these chimpanzees are doing all the

1175
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:11,049
things that we associate with culture

1176
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:13,510
with learning with tool building with

1177
00:51:19,339 --> 00:51:16,930
caring with compassion and then what is

1178
00:51:22,859 --> 00:51:19,349
it 20 years later they're also

1179
00:51:25,319 --> 00:51:22,869
demonstrating murder and jealousy and

1180
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,329
all those other things too so I love

1181
00:51:31,019 --> 00:51:28,240
your question I love your question and I

1182
00:51:34,319 --> 00:51:31,029
love your quest and I love that you're

1183
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:34,329
on to that to asking that question you

1184
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:36,490
know what is the nature of that evil

1185
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:39,210
because I think that that also has to

1186
00:51:45,029 --> 00:51:43,270
reveal to us what's the nature of good

1187
00:51:46,589 --> 00:51:45,039
as well and you know and I just thought

1188
00:51:48,990 --> 00:51:46,599
throw one other little tidbit in there

1189
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:49,000
is that I almost see it the other way is

1190
00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:53,529
I do see myself as capable of evil you

1191
00:51:57,269 --> 00:51:55,480
know what I mean and not that I've ever

1192
00:52:00,539 --> 00:51:57,279
done any of those horrible things but

1193
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,549
it's not beyond my imagination that

1194
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:03,119
someone would murder somebody

1195
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,710
that someone would want to dominate

1196
00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:06,960
somebody that's not my thing I would

1197
00:52:10,579 --> 00:52:08,670
never do that to a kid I have four

1198
00:52:13,549 --> 00:52:10,589
awesome children and the thought of that

1199
00:52:15,739 --> 00:52:13,559
happening to any one of them crushes my

1200
00:52:20,890 --> 00:52:15,749
heart but I would be lying if I said

1201
00:52:23,809 --> 00:52:20,900
that that that is completely

1202
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:23,819
inconceivable to me and I think that's

1203
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,319
the nature of humanity don't you think

1204
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:30,599
we all have a want for power and

1205
00:52:37,999 --> 00:52:33,660
prestige and and money and and feeling

1206
00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:38,009
important but I there's a point though

1207
00:52:41,029 --> 00:52:39,420
when you're gonna murder and hurt

1208
00:52:43,849 --> 00:52:41,039
children maybe it's some other thing I

1209
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:43,859
don't know but I can no I I mean I think

1210
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:46,729
we have the I think we develop healthy

1211
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:49,319
healthy barriers to to whatever the

1212
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:51,420
nature of that voice is if that voice is

1213
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:54,690
from with inside of us or if that voice

1214
00:53:01,099 --> 00:52:57,450
is assisted in some way from something

1215
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:01,109
that is in some other dimension that's

1216
00:53:08,479 --> 00:53:04,249
saying you know do these horrible things

1217
00:53:10,789 --> 00:53:08,489
we've developed a guided post that says

1218
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:10,799
whether it's Jesus or whether it's

1219
00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:14,190
Krishna or who or just whatever form it

1220
00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:17,369
is says no yeah I choose to look up I

1221
00:53:21,049 --> 00:53:19,079
choose to see the light and follow the

1222
00:53:24,229 --> 00:53:21,059
light and we also see that other people

1223
00:53:26,479 --> 00:53:24,239
they fall into a darkness that they

1224
00:53:28,190 --> 00:53:26,489
can't seem to get out of and I I do

1225
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:28,200
think we have to understand that yeah

1226
00:53:31,759 --> 00:53:29,729
what is that darkness you know I have a

1227
00:53:34,729 --> 00:53:31,769
scientist that says that their brain

1228
00:53:37,309 --> 00:53:34,739
structure they can actually tell assign

1229
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,319
a sociopath or a psychopath brain

1230
00:53:42,469 --> 00:53:39,839
structure it's different they can we can

1231
00:53:44,479 --> 00:53:42,479
actually tell that now and when

1232
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:44,489
somebody's four or young and they're

1233
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:46,140
developing into a psychopath we could

1234
00:53:51,289 --> 00:53:48,420
fix it at that age so that they develop

1235
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:51,299
into a healthy human being you know

1236
00:53:54,799 --> 00:53:53,369
they're probably being traumatized in

1237
00:53:56,599 --> 00:53:54,809
some way I don't know if you develop

1238
00:53:58,700 --> 00:53:56,609
into a psychopath just on your own maybe

1239
00:54:01,640 --> 00:53:58,710
you do that would be very interesting

1240
00:54:04,759 --> 00:54:01,650
but there are some ways to identify it

1241
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:04,769
now we have that technology I don't know

1242
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:06,930
if that identifies everybody though I is

1243
00:54:11,959 --> 00:54:09,569
that it end-all I don't know and is it a

1244
00:54:14,330 --> 00:54:11,969
hundred percent accurate who knows those

1245
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:14,340
are great questions say

1246
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:18,090
tell us where your work is going from

1247
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:19,770
here in the immunity in the mediate

1248
00:54:23,540 --> 00:54:22,020
future what interviews you have

1249
00:54:25,310 --> 00:54:23,550
scheduled they're coming out on your

1250
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:25,320
channel and then maybe a longer term

1251
00:54:31,340 --> 00:54:27,510
where do you plan on going with this

1252
00:54:32,810 --> 00:54:31,350
work well you know I have a show that I

1253
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:32,820
just put up and I have Part two coming

1254
00:54:37,820 --> 00:54:35,010
up it's a black operations happening in

1255
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:37,830
Haiti where we don't know exactly what

1256
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:40,680
happened but the Haitian Prime Minister

1257
00:54:44,780 --> 00:54:43,410
went on CNN and claimed that those black

1258
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:44,790
operations these eight people were

1259
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:47,490
arrested by Haitian authorities and he

1260
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:49,890
claimed that they were there to murder

1261
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:52,890
him but then there's other suspects that

1262
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:54,510
maybe he was there too right they were

1263
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:56,220
there they robbed the National Bank cuz

1264
00:55:01,040 --> 00:54:58,410
then being in the National Bank is

1265
00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:01,050
across the street from his office so

1266
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:03,180
nobody really knows exactly what

1267
00:55:08,090 --> 00:55:05,040
happened but the Prime Minister was just

1268
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:08,100
asked to step down too so and these

1269
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:10,410
eight mercenaries the United States came

1270
00:55:15,620 --> 00:55:13,770
in and negotiated their release out of

1271
00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,630
Haiti so it's very interesting I have

1272
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:17,940
easily donto back on who was the first

1273
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:20,370
lawyer who was a lawyer for the first

1274
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:22,530
democratically elected president Haiti

1275
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:25,290
back in the early 90s she is amazing and

1276
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,050
that's who I'm interviewing on that I

1277
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,240
also have Jimmy boots coming back I'm

1278
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:32,400
interviewing I'm going visiting him this

1279
00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:34,200
weekend and I'm interviewing him as well

1280
00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:37,380
I also I'm trying to arrange if people

1281
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:39,390
are familiar with Timothy homuth who is

1282
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:41,310
trying to disclose a lot of human

1283
00:55:46,340 --> 00:55:44,250
trafficking and terrible abuse he has

1284
00:55:50,090 --> 00:55:46,350
just been jailed he's been fighting for

1285
00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:50,100
his life but he put in an affidavit into

1286
00:55:56,050 --> 00:55:52,560
the court with naming names and evidence

1287
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:56,060
and it was on a little thumb drive and

1288
00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,010
lo and behold the court loss tell that

1289
00:56:05,210 --> 00:56:01,980
those documents and now we're trying to

1290
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:05,220
track it down and they're also replacing

1291
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:07,770
the judges and putting statewide judges

1292
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:10,440
onto his case people are worried that he

1293
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:12,180
might get killed in jail I mean there

1294
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:16,170
it's a very very serious his rights his

1295
00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:19,520
constitutional rights have been violated

1296
00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:23,630
but his situation is a landmark

1297
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:25,800
situation if he wins it would be a

1298
00:56:28,269 --> 00:56:26,660
landmark case

1299
00:56:30,339 --> 00:56:28,279
there's they do not want him to win

1300
00:56:32,499 --> 00:56:30,349
because the information he has is huge

1301
00:56:35,650 --> 00:56:32,509
he has a lot of people now rallying

1302
00:56:38,259 --> 00:56:35,660
behind him and not just you know average

1303
00:56:40,930 --> 00:56:38,269
people he has people who are ex-cia

1304
00:56:43,450 --> 00:56:40,940
he has high-level attorneys and and

1305
00:56:47,410 --> 00:56:43,460
judges and all sorts of people that are

1306
00:56:49,930 --> 00:56:47,420
coming to his aid now and I am so happy

1307
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:49,940
that we're starting to see a coalition

1308
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:52,400
of people that are getting it and trying

1309
00:56:56,170 --> 00:56:54,049
to help these people who are warriors

1310
00:56:57,849 --> 00:56:56,180
out there trying to do what's right now

1311
00:56:59,529 --> 00:56:57,859
tim holtz a--the has a different

1312
00:57:01,420 --> 00:56:59,539
perspective than me he's worthy on the

1313
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:01,430
edge I mean he's not afraid to say it

1314
00:57:04,839 --> 00:57:03,440
like it is and people listening might

1315
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:04,849
think that I'm like that listen to the

1316
00:57:09,099 --> 00:57:06,529
scenario but I mean in comparison he'll

1317
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,109
just he's had enough they've been

1318
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:11,599
attacking him for a decade and so now

1319
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:14,089
he's just like I'm I'm done I you guys

1320
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:17,089
are you're trafficking and children and

1321
00:57:22,539 --> 00:57:19,190
he's just going after him and they do

1322
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,549
not like it but you know that's a big

1323
00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:24,319
case going on right now and I I'm

1324
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:26,660
worried about his life as safety and he

1325
00:57:30,970 --> 00:57:28,490
has great people that are around him I'm

1326
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:30,980
trying to get an interview set up with

1327
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:33,440
that situation with some really great

1328
00:57:38,859 --> 00:57:35,799
people who are helping him out as well

1329
00:57:41,710 --> 00:57:38,869
so that's my immediate long-term I'm

1330
00:57:44,740 --> 00:57:41,720
just gonna continue to bring light and

1331
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:44,750
change and try to get as many people to

1332
00:57:51,099 --> 00:57:48,170
understand what we're facing and join

1333
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:51,109
you know the army of people trying to

1334
00:57:56,980 --> 00:57:54,170
bring better you know more love and

1335
00:57:58,930 --> 00:57:56,990
light into this world let's not treat

1336
00:58:00,700 --> 00:57:58,940
people this way you know we all have our

1337
00:58:04,210 --> 00:58:00,710
flaws we're all going to want power and

1338
00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:04,220
prestige and all that stuff but there's

1339
00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:06,740
a line let's not hurt each other let's

1340
00:58:10,299 --> 00:58:07,670
get rid of the trauma

1341
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,309
let's build healthy human beings and

1342
00:58:16,059 --> 00:58:12,559
healthy communities that's what I'm

1343
00:58:18,999 --> 00:58:16,069
going wow that's great that's absolutely

1344
00:58:20,499 --> 00:58:19,009
great and so the best place for people

1345
00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:20,509
to find you they can find you pretty

1346
00:58:26,259 --> 00:58:23,660
easily on YouTube what are some go to

1347
00:58:28,569 --> 00:58:26,269
Google searches that people ought to use

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00:58:29,890 --> 00:58:28,579
to find you of course I'll have links in

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00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:29,900
the show notes but I always like to give

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00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:32,000
people the you know just Google visits

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00:58:37,660 --> 00:58:34,670
if you put my name it comes up a lot the

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00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:37,670
show has come up but you know Jimmy

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00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:40,430
boots you can get his name through and

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00:58:43,220 --> 00:58:40,920
you know

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00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:43,230
usually my interview with him comes up

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00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,210
but if you put my name you'll find me my

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website Sarah West all calm my youtube

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00:58:52,790 --> 00:58:50,460
channel you can move up my notes ready

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for people to spell it's just like it

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00:58:59,900 --> 00:58:57,750
sounds W est le also yeah and then Sarah

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I mean if you spell it wrong it usually

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00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:03,240
still comes up butts SAR aah but yeah

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it'll come up and I suggest that people

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00:59:10,220 --> 00:59:07,800
sign up for my newsletter if they want

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:10,230
to hear my shows because a lot of I have

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00:59:13,850 --> 00:59:12,450
almost 100,000 subscribers on YouTube

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00:59:15,830 --> 00:59:13,860
right now but a lot of those people

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00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:15,840
don't get alerts when my show has come

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00:59:21,830 --> 00:59:17,910
up and so if you signed up for my

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00:59:26,270 --> 00:59:21,840
newsletter usually YouTube yeah YouTube

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is yes altering distribution of content

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that isn't suitable if it isn't suitable

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to whoever is pulling their strings hey

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and just by the way so people know we've

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00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:36,270
been mentioning Jimmy boots and then

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00:59:41,870 --> 00:59:39,330
we've been interchanging Jimmy Rothstein

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00:59:44,090 --> 00:59:41,880
same person and you'll find like Sarah

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00:59:45,470 --> 00:59:44,100
said you'll find those interviews listen

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:45,480
to those those are a great starting

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00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:47,370
point because well as you alluded to the

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00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:49,740
credibility just comes oozing out of

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00:59:55,220 --> 00:59:52,410
this guy it's like ya tryin poke holes

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00:59:59,570 --> 00:59:55,230
and this guy's story he was right there

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01:00:03,500 --> 00:59:59,580
but so yeah easy to find Sarah West all

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01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,510
any other services or things that you do

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01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:06,000
that people might be interested in well

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01:00:12,290 --> 01:00:09,330
you know the the well there's a book I

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01:00:14,660 --> 01:00:12,300
was a cube book I'm not really it for

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01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:14,670
people who don't know Q that's the group

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01:00:17,930 --> 01:00:16,500
of people who if Cupid sup these

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01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:17,940
messages and then people are following

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01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:20,430
and learning and and so forth and I

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01:00:24,110 --> 01:00:22,260
never really followed Q but what I like

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01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,120
about too is that a lot of people are

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01:00:29,180 --> 01:00:26,880
learning a lot from Q and what he's

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01:00:31,790 --> 01:00:29,190
posting and there was a to book that I

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01:00:34,070 --> 01:00:31,800
was asked to be part of and what I did

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01:00:36,350 --> 01:00:34,080
is I posted my narratives are not

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:36,360
nearest transcripts of my interview a

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couple of my interviews with Jimmy boots

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:41,310
in that and also solutions to some of

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01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:42,810
these problems there there's my last

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01:00:46,070 --> 01:00:44,490
interview with Jimmy boots as solutions

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01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:46,080
and we need to get a lot of people

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01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:47,760
involved there's real solutions it's

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01:00:53,140 --> 01:00:49,380
also what a family should do if their

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child was taken and

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01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,890
the interesting thing is is you know we

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01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:56,960
couldn't get what we want as much

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01:01:02,650 --> 01:00:59,839
exposure for this as possible and the

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01:01:05,230 --> 01:01:02,660
cue book went to number one it beat out

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01:01:06,999 --> 01:01:05,240
the McCabe book deep state McKay book

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right after a 60 minute interview and

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01:01:11,799 --> 01:01:10,460
then Amazon actually it went for number

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01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:11,809
one in three different categories it

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01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:13,609
went to number two overall but we think

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:14,809
it would have went to number one because

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they deleted hundreds of reviews and

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01:01:23,410 --> 01:01:21,319
mess with it and actually decrease the

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01:01:25,809 --> 01:01:23,420
price and all these things to try to get

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01:01:28,089 --> 01:01:25,819
the publisher to not what can't make

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01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:28,099
money but they kind of they planned that

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01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,130
Amazon was gonna play with them that way

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where they would lower the price of the

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point where they would have to pay

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01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:35,690
Amazon to sell it so that's the other

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01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:39,710
thing I got great great well again folks

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01:01:43,690 --> 01:01:41,930
our guest has been Sara West doll you

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01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:43,700
can check her out in all those ways we

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01:01:48,279 --> 01:01:46,249
were just talking about Sarah best of

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01:01:50,170 --> 01:01:48,289
luck with your work and thanks again so

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01:01:52,769 --> 01:01:50,180
much for joining me on skeptic oh well

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01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:52,779
thank you so much I really appreciate it

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01:01:57,339 --> 01:01:55,430
after the interview with Sarah we had a

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01:01:59,950 --> 01:01:57,349
little bit of follow-on conversation and

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01:02:05,079 --> 01:01:59,960
I've included some of that in here as

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01:02:06,489 --> 01:02:05,089
well if you get a chance go to my last

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01:02:08,650 --> 01:02:06,499
show that I did with them and look at

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01:02:10,269 --> 01:02:08,660
the solutions if you could talk about

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01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:10,279
that and share that with your audience I

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01:02:17,099 --> 01:02:11,779
would really appreciate that

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01:02:19,809 --> 01:02:17,109
yeah I'm just just not my stomach up and

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:19,819
when we talk about solutions I guess

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01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:22,130
part of it is when you say if your child

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01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:24,319
is taken and then immediately that I

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01:02:27,069 --> 01:02:26,210
just feel the blood just draining from

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01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:27,079
my body you know

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01:02:32,859 --> 01:02:29,690
I can't imagine one of my kids I know

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01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:32,869
it's important know that though for me

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01:02:39,819 --> 01:02:37,190
that's not my thing me exposing folks to

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01:02:44,380 --> 01:02:39,829
you they they can find that and they

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:44,390
will find that okay yeah it's hard what

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01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:46,730
I like to do is and especially because

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01:02:52,029 --> 01:02:50,390
you know guys especially you know people

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01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:52,039
who continue to bury their head in the

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01:02:56,829 --> 01:02:53,930
sand and just don't want to deal with

1457
01:02:58,019 --> 01:02:56,839
this sometimes I think they need to come

1458
01:03:00,999 --> 01:02:58,029
at it a little bit from that

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01:03:02,589 --> 01:03:01,009
intellectual angle that you touch down

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:02,599
beautifully you know with the science

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01:03:06,790 --> 01:03:04,970
part of it well I think that a

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psychopath

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01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:08,600
that my wife is forensic psychologist I

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01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:11,240
love her to death but that's complete

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:14,060
nonsense it's just [\h__\h] the nature

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01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:16,010
of consciousness everything we know you

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01:03:20,620 --> 01:03:17,660
know that's like back to my skeptical

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01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:20,630
thing is okay near-death experience we

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01:03:26,020 --> 01:03:23,690
with 200 peer-reviewed papers we get it

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:26,030
consciousness extends bodily death in

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01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:28,010
some way we don't understand so get over

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01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:30,170
it it's not about the freaking brain I

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01:03:35,350 --> 01:03:33,250
mean the brain is some cow involved in

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01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:35,360
channeling this consciousness but it's

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01:03:41,410 --> 01:03:38,390
not it's not about the brain well the

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:41,420
brain get you stuck in operating in an

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01:03:45,550 --> 01:03:43,130
evil mode oh if it has a certain

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01:03:48,010 --> 01:03:45,560
structure to it or does the structure

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01:03:51,220 --> 01:03:48,020
change because you are I mean the

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01:03:53,980 --> 01:03:51,230
chicken the egg might be exactly but but

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:53,990
a lot of children are exposed to trauma

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01:03:58,930 --> 01:03:56,210
it purposely to get them to do trauma

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01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,940
later on others exactly well that's the

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01:04:04,380 --> 01:04:01,280
whole neuroplasticity thing and that's

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01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:04,390
proven but yet the materialistic

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01:04:11,290 --> 01:04:08,420
scientific phony science agenda fits

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01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:11,300
into this in terms of their they don't

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:14,330
acknowledge even neuroplasticity so the

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01:04:18,820 --> 01:04:16,850
fact that your brain is like you said as

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01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:18,830
a chicken in the egg so if you think

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01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:21,440
evil thoughts your brain changes if you

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01:04:26,590 --> 01:04:23,780
go and look at the brain of a somebody's

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01:04:29,310 --> 01:04:26,600
meditated for twenty years Buddhist the

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01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:29,320
brain is different well that's because

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01:04:35,290 --> 01:04:33,110
what your thoughts create your brain not

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01:04:36,930 --> 01:04:35,300
the other way around so that all all

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01:04:38,860 --> 01:04:36,940
that research we're gonna go study

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01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,870
psychopaths and stuff like and then we

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01:04:44,740 --> 01:04:40,400
don't even know about you know about

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01:04:46,540 --> 01:04:44,750
epigenetics thanks again to Sarah West

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01:04:48,790 --> 01:04:46,550
all for joining me today on skeptic oh

1502
01:04:51,010 --> 01:04:48,800
please check out our YouTube channel she

1503
01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:51,020
has a lot of fantastic interviews up

1504
01:04:53,710 --> 01:04:51,590
there

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01:04:56,980 --> 01:04:53,720
the one question I T up from this

1506
01:05:00,430 --> 01:04:56,990
interview is what does human compromised

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01:05:02,770 --> 01:05:00,440
human exploitation blackmail have to do

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01:05:06,490 --> 01:05:02,780
with the larger spiritual question of

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01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:06,500
evil and where do we draw the line how

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01:05:12,220 --> 01:05:09,440
do we know personally what's right and

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01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:12,230
what's wrong and when someone has

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:14,390
stepped over that line this is a

1513
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:17,330
question that has been asked forever and

1514
01:05:21,830 --> 01:05:19,530
asked on this show and asked through

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01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:21,840
the ages but it has a different angle

1516
01:05:25,490 --> 01:05:23,670
when we look at it through the lens of

1517
01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:25,500
this interview so I thought it'd be fun

1518
01:05:29,420 --> 01:05:27,540
to chat about it please join me on The

1519
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:29,430
Skeptical forum or otherwise connect

1520
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:31,770
with me and tell me what you think about

1521
01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:34,410
this question beyond that of course

1522
01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:37,560
check out skeptic Oh calm for my library

1523
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:39,540
of all the previous shows all available

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01:05:44,270 --> 01:05:42,090
for free for download and keep listening

1525
01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:44,280
because I have I think some good shows

1526
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:46,350
coming up and I hope you stay with me

1527
01:05:51,110 --> 01:05:48,570
for all of that and that you enjoy this

1528
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:51,120
and that you find it worthy of sharing

1529
01:05:57,590 --> 01:05:53,850
with other people who might enjoy it as

1530
01:05:59,340 --> 01:05:57,600
well until next time take care and bye

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01:06:05,860 --> 01:05:59,350
for now

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[Music]

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01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:18,740
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01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:20,609
wasn't really a video but just an audio

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stored as a video I apologize but

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there's more videos out there as well

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but please check out the skeptic Oh

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website you can see it here we cover a

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01:06:32,750 --> 01:06:29,910
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